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		<title>Comment on Rodney Shirley Corrigenda &amp; Addenda to TMOTW by Luis A. Robles Macías</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis A. Robles Macías</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 07:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Shirley,

I hope this message finds you well. I am writing because a recent presentation has reminded me of a pre-1700 world map that does not appear in your magnificent cartobibliography, and I wonder why. I am talking about the map(s) made in China around 1600 by Mateo Ricci and coworkers. I was guessing, maybe these works  have been excluded because of the technique used to make them - somehow not equivalent to printing as was practiced in Europe at the time?

Best regards,
Luis A. Robles Macías</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Shirley,</p>
<p>I hope this message finds you well. I am writing because a recent presentation has reminded me of a pre-1700 world map that does not appear in your magnificent cartobibliography, and I wonder why. I am talking about the map(s) made in China around 1600 by Mateo Ricci and coworkers. I was guessing, maybe these works  have been excluded because of the technique used to make them &#8211; somehow not equivalent to printing as was practiced in Europe at the time?</p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
Luis A. Robles Macías</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rodney Shirley Corrigenda &amp; Addenda to TMOTW by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Additions to Corrigenda &amp; Addenda—as at mid-July 2011.


376(A)  Anon c.1650 or possibly earlier  [new entry]
A small anonymous world map size is 82 x 154 mm. has been noted by the Parisian dealer
Libraire Le Bail. The The title is ‘Terraquei Globi Delineatio’, appearing at the head
of twin hemispheres. California is an island and ‘Terra Australis’ is in primitive form.
The climatic zones are marked in the circumference of each hemisphere which are placed
against a diamond patterned background.
Reference: Le Bail catalogue 2010, no.425. The globe gores of Pierre Moullart-Sanson
(entry 592A)  are illustrated on the same page, no.427. 


501(A) William Berry  c.1680 (or later)  [new entry]
Ashley Baynton-Williams has provided me with details of a further world map by William Berry. 
It is signed as engraver by John Rich who engraved Berry’s ‘...Roads of England’ in 1679. The
world map title is ‘A New Map of the World Projected upon the Poles of the Equator’ and depicts
two main hemispheres with three further circular celestial diagrams and an oval ‘old world’
projection at the foot. There is no mention of this (second) world map by Berry in Sarah
Tyacke’s ‘London Map-Sellers’, nor in the article by David Bannister in ‘The Map Collector’ no.21.


530(A)  Joseph Moxon – Nicolas Visscher  1685  [new variant]
Joel Kovarsky has advised me of a further variant of the world map originated by Joseph Moxon.
His oval world map, as shown in plate 339 with decorative surrounding vignettes, in this instance
lacks the central text and in its place is the imprint ‘At Amsterdam by Nicolaus Visscher with
Privilege..., 1685.’  The map was very probably intended for a Dutch Bible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Additions to Corrigenda &#038; Addenda—as at mid-July 2011.</p>
<p>376(A)  Anon c.1650 or possibly earlier  [new entry]<br />
A small anonymous world map size is 82 x 154 mm. has been noted by the Parisian dealer<br />
Libraire Le Bail. The The title is ‘Terraquei Globi Delineatio’, appearing at the head<br />
of twin hemispheres. California is an island and ‘Terra Australis’ is in primitive form.<br />
The climatic zones are marked in the circumference of each hemisphere which are placed<br />
against a diamond patterned background.<br />
Reference: Le Bail catalogue 2010, no.425. The globe gores of Pierre Moullart-Sanson<br />
(entry 592A)  are illustrated on the same page, no.427. </p>
<p>501(A) William Berry  c.1680 (or later)  [new entry]<br />
Ashley Baynton-Williams has provided me with details of a further world map by William Berry.<br />
It is signed as engraver by John Rich who engraved Berry’s ‘&#8230;Roads of England’ in 1679. The<br />
world map title is ‘A New Map of the World Projected upon the Poles of the Equator’ and depicts<br />
two main hemispheres with three further circular celestial diagrams and an oval ‘old world’<br />
projection at the foot. There is no mention of this (second) world map by Berry in Sarah<br />
Tyacke’s ‘London Map-Sellers’, nor in the article by David Bannister in ‘The Map Collector’ no.21.</p>
<p>530(A)  Joseph Moxon – Nicolas Visscher  1685  [new variant]<br />
Joel Kovarsky has advised me of a further variant of the world map originated by Joseph Moxon.<br />
His oval world map, as shown in plate 339 with decorative surrounding vignettes, in this instance<br />
lacks the central text and in its place is the imprint ‘At Amsterdam by Nicolaus Visscher with<br />
Privilege&#8230;, 1685.’  The map was very probably intended for a Dutch Bible.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Antique Maps Market Place by diman82</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to mention it&#039;s for sale, please contact me directly by mail if interested: diman82@gmail.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention it&#8217;s for sale, please contact me directly by mail if interested: <a href="mailto:diman82@gmail.com">diman82@gmail.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Antique Maps Market Place by diman82</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ANTIQUE WORLDWIDE Geographical ATLAS RUSSIAN 1894


It&#039;s a RARE ANTIQUE - Learning Geographical Atlas (worldwide), 30 tables, the publication Kartogroficheskogo zavefdeniya Ilyin, S. St Petersburg, July 9, 1894.
 
Atlas in excellent condition, accompanied by photos from the underlying link.

https://picasaweb.google.com/Diman82/Atlas?authkey=Gv1sRgCLSzhP3xwcWllgE&amp;feat=directlink#

Please feel free to contact me with any details regarding this item,
Dima.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ANTIQUE WORLDWIDE Geographical ATLAS RUSSIAN 1894</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a RARE ANTIQUE &#8211; Learning Geographical Atlas (worldwide), 30 tables, the publication Kartogroficheskogo zavefdeniya Ilyin, S. St Petersburg, July 9, 1894.</p>
<p>Atlas in excellent condition, accompanied by photos from the underlying link.</p>
<p><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/Diman82/Atlas?authkey=Gv1sRgCLSzhP3xwcWllgE&#038;feat=directlink#" rel="nofollow">https://picasaweb.google.com/Diman82/Atlas?authkey=Gv1sRgCLSzhP3xwcWllgE&#038;feat=directlink#</a></p>
<p>Please feel free to contact me with any details regarding this item,<br />
Dima.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Introduction to &#8216;Dutch printed sea charts from the 17th century&#8217; by Luis A. Robles Macías</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis A. Robles Macías</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Putman,
What an excellent initiative you have had by publishing this book on-line. I will read it with much interest. 
Just a very minor suggestion of correction: there seems to be a HTML code typo in the caption of the third image of this page. 
Best regards, L.A.R.M.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Putman,<br />
What an excellent initiative you have had by publishing this book on-line. I will read it with much interest.<br />
Just a very minor suggestion of correction: there seems to be a HTML code typo in the caption of the third image of this page.<br />
Best regards, L.A.R.M.</p>
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		<title>Comment on  by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
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		<description>As a Holy Land Map Collector I would love to view part of your work from Maps of the holy Land. Do you have them posted somewhere?
Dick Elkins</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Holy Land Map Collector I would love to view part of your work from Maps of the holy Land. Do you have them posted somewhere?<br />
Dick Elkins</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rodney Shirley Corrigenda &amp; Addenda to TMOTW by The Mapping of the World, de R. Shirley &#171; Historia y Mapas</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Mapping of the World, de R. Shirley &#171; Historia y Mapas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 20:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Desde la primera edición de 1984 han ido saliendo revisiones cada vez más exhaustivas y exactas en 1987, 1993 y 2001. Ahora mismo Rodney Shirley está trabajando en una nueva edición, para la cual ha solicitado la ayuda de los internautas que puedan aportar comentarios,  correcciones o añadidos. El sitio para comunicarlo es en el blog de Robert Putman. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Desde la primera edición de 1984 han ido saliendo revisiones cada vez más exhaustivas y exactas en 1987, 1993 y 2001. Ahora mismo Rodney Shirley está trabajando en una nueva edición, para la cual ha solicitado la ayuda de los internautas que puedan aportar comentarios,  correcciones o añadidos. El sitio para comunicarlo es en el blog de Robert Putman. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rodney Shirley Corrigenda &amp; Addenda to TMOTW by Luis A. Robles Macías</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis A. Robles Macías</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 19:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Shirley,

I have a minor comment regarding entry 70 (Vadianus, 1534).
The current text says that this map is a “simplified reduction” of the one listed as Münster-Holbein 1532 (entry 67). However, I have noticed that the graticule is not the same. The author of the map in entry 67 used the same graticule as Bordone with meridians that bend markedly towards the Poles, particularly at high latitudes, whereas in Vadianus’ map the curvature of meridians is much smaller. Aside from that, the coastlines of the Indian Ocean are somewhat different between the two maps.

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Shirley,</p>
<p>I have a minor comment regarding entry 70 (Vadianus, 1534).<br />
The current text says that this map is a “simplified reduction” of the one listed as Münster-Holbein 1532 (entry 67). However, I have noticed that the graticule is not the same. The author of the map in entry 67 used the same graticule as Bordone with meridians that bend markedly towards the Poles, particularly at high latitudes, whereas in Vadianus’ map the curvature of meridians is much smaller. Aside from that, the coastlines of the Indian Ocean are somewhat different between the two maps.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rodney Shirley Corrigenda &amp; Addenda to TMOTW by R.Shirley</title>
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		<dc:creator>R.Shirley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 13:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am grateful to Luis A. Robles Macias for his elaborations and corrections to the two entries Apianus (51) and Gastaldi (107). In the former case it is probable that further variations may occur in later book editions. 

My apologies for a delayed response, as I have been away from my computer with a rather bad attack of laryngitis, now hopefully on the mend.

With regards

Rodney Shirley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am grateful to Luis A. Robles Macias for his elaborations and corrections to the two entries Apianus (51) and Gastaldi (107). In the former case it is probable that further variations may occur in later book editions. </p>
<p>My apologies for a delayed response, as I have been away from my computer with a rather bad attack of laryngitis, now hopefully on the mend.</p>
<p>With regards</p>
<p>Rodney Shirley</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rodney Shirley Corrigenda &amp; Addenda to TMOTW by Luis A. Robles Macías</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis A. Robles Macías</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr Putman and Mr Shirley, Thank you for the opportunity to provide feedback in this forum. Here you are my comments. Best regards, Luis A. Robles Macías.

Entry 51 (Apianus)

A couple of weeks ago I had in my hands a first edition of Petrus Apianus’s Cosmographicus Liber at the Bibliothèque Nationale de France and could compare its astrolabe-map with the slightly different one reproduced in your book, which comes from a later edition. I later found a digital image of that map from the same 1st edition of 1524 on the website of the John Carter Brown Library (http://tinyurl.com/4safgn4).

My first comment is that there is a slight inaccuracy in the current text where it affirms that the map extends up to 25º South. The external circle that limits the map represents the Tropic of Capricorn, which is actually located at 23.4º South. While it is difficult to measure the exact latitude of the Tropic on Apianus’s map I think it is less than 25ºS; in any case I think it would be more exact to say that “the map extends up to the Tropic of Capricorn.”

A detail that might be worth noting is that in the first edition the decorative motif in the center of the map is a David star. Apparently in later editions that star was replaced by other motifs.

Finally, on the first edition’s map the word OCCIDENS has been printed to the right of the map and the word ORIENS to the left. In the erratum section of the book it is indicated that this is an error and that the two words should be exchanged, as they appear on your image. I would like to point out that in fact both choices are totally wrong. This map is a polar projection where the North is in the middle and therefore East and West are not located at any of the sides of the map. Going West in such a map means moving clockwise and going East moving anticlockwise. Similarly wrong is the fact of having printed “Meridies” below the map and “Media nox” above it.

Entry 107 (Gastaldi 1561)

In the 2001 edition a picture is described as “Philip II of Spain… conversing with two conquistadores”

I agree that one the characters, dressed in armour, could be a Spanish conquistador, even though he could also come from other European countries. On the other hand, the attire and especially the headdress of the other character do not correspond at all to the Spanish fashion of the 16th century. For me he is clearly dressed as a Turk or as what Europeans of that time would call a “Moor”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr Putman and Mr Shirley, Thank you for the opportunity to provide feedback in this forum. Here you are my comments. Best regards, Luis A. Robles Macías.</p>
<p>Entry 51 (Apianus)</p>
<p>A couple of weeks ago I had in my hands a first edition of Petrus Apianus’s Cosmographicus Liber at the Bibliothèque Nationale de France and could compare its astrolabe-map with the slightly different one reproduced in your book, which comes from a later edition. I later found a digital image of that map from the same 1st edition of 1524 on the website of the John Carter Brown Library (<a href="http://tinyurl.com/4safgn4" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/4safgn4</a>).</p>
<p>My first comment is that there is a slight inaccuracy in the current text where it affirms that the map extends up to 25º South. The external circle that limits the map represents the Tropic of Capricorn, which is actually located at 23.4º South. While it is difficult to measure the exact latitude of the Tropic on Apianus’s map I think it is less than 25ºS; in any case I think it would be more exact to say that “the map extends up to the Tropic of Capricorn.”</p>
<p>A detail that might be worth noting is that in the first edition the decorative motif in the center of the map is a David star. Apparently in later editions that star was replaced by other motifs.</p>
<p>Finally, on the first edition’s map the word OCCIDENS has been printed to the right of the map and the word ORIENS to the left. In the erratum section of the book it is indicated that this is an error and that the two words should be exchanged, as they appear on your image. I would like to point out that in fact both choices are totally wrong. This map is a polar projection where the North is in the middle and therefore East and West are not located at any of the sides of the map. Going West in such a map means moving clockwise and going East moving anticlockwise. Similarly wrong is the fact of having printed “Meridies” below the map and “Media nox” above it.</p>
<p>Entry 107 (Gastaldi 1561)</p>
<p>In the 2001 edition a picture is described as “Philip II of Spain… conversing with two conquistadores”</p>
<p>I agree that one the characters, dressed in armour, could be a Spanish conquistador, even though he could also come from other European countries. On the other hand, the attire and especially the headdress of the other character do not correspond at all to the Spanish fashion of the 16th century. For me he is clearly dressed as a Turk or as what Europeans of that time would call a “Moor”.</p>
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